[1] The Herd are a hooligan gang. They hunt in packs, fuelled by cocaine, hooked on violence and occasionally wielding chains. With Euro 2012 on the way, the papers are full of panicky stories about the Polish authorities combing hooligan databases, neo-Nazi groups ambushing peaceful fans and riots stopping games. As for Gooners turning up at WHL i can honestly say i never saw a firm turn up, ever, between 76 and late 80s. Just thought it was me. As for the other div on here-we didnt run from Wall, Chelsea or West Ham in the 80s,we give it to them all, whats your story ? Arsenal 1-0 Manchester City (6th Feb. 1971) Watch on Arsenal v Man City 1970-71 with Bob McNab interview and Jimmy Hills analysis of Charlies passing Charlie could play both upfront or as an attacking midfielder just behind The front two of John Radford and Ray Kennedy. But even when you were in, the fear never left you. [1], The Pet Shop Boys also performed a benefit night for Connell's family at Heaven nightclub, called Can You Bear It?, alongside Suggs and Chas Smash of Madness, who had both been friends with Connell since he was 12. Although Arsenal fans have a good reputation, the club does have a small hardcore following of around 80 thugs. ", Fifa's inspectors visit England this week to run the rule over the 2018 World Cup bid. Away from the ground it is a different story. Hes sure he became an actor because being a top boy is about fame, attention and recognition; wanting to be a face. Arsenal Herd and Gooners then and now! They have been involved in several outbreaks this season, including fighting at both north London derbies against arch-rivals Tottenham Hotspur. Take the funeral of Dainton The Bear Connell in 2007, security man for the Pet Shop Boys and a top boy in Arsenals firm. The court heard they had come to the pub armed with a dustbin, a pole and barstools, but the Herd had moved on from the pub. Was: $24.95. The Two Stories Behind the Meaning of E-I-E. Going liverpool 80 handed. Football firms were (and still can be) sprawling groups comprising hardcore hoolies as well as plenty of softer-core members more interested in the clothes and the music the casuals. Call yourselves fans? Police reported only seven arrests, which was seen as a triumph. Wed arranged to meet. He went on to appear in videos for the Pet Shop Boys, an unlikely fusion wrought in the illicit raves of the late 1980s. Brick Abat I forgot all the other user names you got on youtube but we all know you was never there or part of any yid firm when it mattered, no ghettos in fucking Hertford you soft cunt. But opting out of some of these cookies may affect your browsing experience. He recalled attending Arsenal matches in the mid-70s when the most notorious Highbury hooligan was Johnny Hoy. Six-feet-two and around 200 pounds, Hoy was an astute rabble rouser who organized Arsenal fans to fend off rival firms who tried to make inroads on the Highbury terraces. You could have read the same headlines for international football tournaments at any time over the last 30 years. thats about how I felt, Made my day finding this ..not the original peice.. Total bolloks but the comments are mint..only found out a few years back that Denton had passed away hed been talking about me haha hard to forget..Arsenal had a handy mob and would always turn up at K.Cross after the game aswell..If you are a young one you wont remember me but we had some good rows in the 80s especially before the Old Bill had a clue..great night in 80s night match midweek, our tag -alongs got off at Arsenal tube we got off before..but after the game West Ham had turned up and were at the end of the street not usual for them..and never saw Arsenal in full length Tacchini or Ellesse trackies like the Yids looking stupid..angie Leeds united. It's the height of disrespect in the hooligan world to turn over the opposition's pub. I swear a lot at matches and I once kicked a seat when we conceded a goal. The Lamb Clinic understands and treats the underlying causes as well as the indications and symptoms. Wanker you know f**k all you werent about with the yid firm otherwise you would know how from early 80s to mid 90s you did nothing, we loved playing you as we used to love walking down your High road untouched & giving it to you, also from around 82/83 you were scared to come into the Northbank once we got ourselves a good mob your bullying days were over and you couldnt stand it & yes we did give it to all the other London firms in that time as for your Chelsea mates laughing well thats bullshit because we done them on numerous occasions so theyre like you either in denial or you werent there just a keyboard warrior. Police outside the White Swan following the fight, Sentenced: (Clockwise from top left) West Ham fans Danny Butler, James Bevan, Christopher Love, Tony Hackett, Paul Ogden, You must be at least 18 years old to create an account, Must be at least 6 characters, include an upper and lower case character and a number, I would like to be emailed about offers, events and updates from Evening Standard. You did have numbers but so did we but we both had a smaller group who slipped away from the hangers on. [1] He left school at 16 and became a scaffolder. Arsenal last season, for instance. From $19.58. Well, 500 specially trained police officers were unable to contain terrifying violence as Arsenal and Millwall fans clashed. Flight Options, which handles travel to football games and had a significant contract with FIFA for World Cup flights to South Africa, was founded by a former member of The Herd. It's possible to advertise on our website. The Herd. This account already exists. Hes not alone. In the band's early years, Connell worked as a minder for Madness. Who run and survived a 6 mile run to Old Street post Boxing Day? When they were 20-30 handed and getting run everywhere in Boro, Manchester or Merseyside us older lot used to watch from a distance or from our mini bus and laugh at them , wed find our own battles away from them busy loud cunts and the ob and then slip away with no one none the wiser. Among those mourning his death in a Moscow car crash were the former Arsenal players Ian Wright and Lee Dixon, Frank Bruno, Pet Shop Boys Chris Lowe and Neil Tennant, the Madness frontman Carl Smyth, the artist Sam Taylor-Wood, Janet Street-Porter, Matt Lucas and David Walliams. Andy Nicholls is the author of Scally: The Shocking Confessions of a Category C Hooligan. A Football Association spokesperson says: "In reality, football is safer than it has ever been and the great majority of people are able to enjoy football in a safe and friendly environment. Old photos from a day out taking in the beauty spots of Runcorn, North Allerton and Goodison! If you are looking for an alternative to surgery after trying the many traditional approaches to chronic pain, The Lamb Clinic offers a spinal solution to move you toward mobility and wellness again. Some younger ones may think never a female hooligan those that were there at the beginning circa 1980 may remember me if you got a smack its 40 odd years now so no grudges lol Im 57 and still a casual/ dresser football hooligan will take the 5th if asked buy old bill. By clicking Sign up you confirm that your data has been entered correctly and you have read and agree to our Terms of use, Cookie policy and Privacy notice. Although a large section of The Herd was considered to be a violent fighting firm, a small amount of the members were not physically violent. Corinthians 15:57; But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus, Fantasy Premier League Champion 2013/2014. P.S at least we know & admit it when we get done unlike you Billy Bullshit. If anyone is still in contact with S.G ask him to put all the photos up on the Herd site,would be good to see the ones he took of the riot down Seven sisters just before the Brixton & Toxteth riots broke out!,we were the leading fucking trendsetters and fashion icons of our day ; ). We go out together, drink together, go to weddings and funerals, and are in business together. He still supported his secret tattoo back then, dont dare talk in public about it. Boys Own magazine, launched in 1988, was also a product of the football/rave fusion, led by the DJ and Chelsea casual Terry Farley. Since then, the boys from the terraces have grown up and out into culture, making music, writing books, producing films, television, theatre and fine art. Contents 1 Matt Buckner 2 Pete Dunham 3 Tommy Hatcher 4 Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. The last time I was out it was towards Surrey Quays, Millwall vs West Ham, says Ian, a media lawyer and member of West Hams Inter City Firm (ICF). "The hooligan problem and football violence that just won't go away", "Thousands attend funeral of legendary Arsenal fan", "Surprise attack by Arsenal fans seeking revenge sparked battle", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arsenal_firm&oldid=1142136701, Pages using infobox criminal organization with ethnicity or ethnic makeup parameters, Articles with unsourced statements from April 2011, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, White, White Irish, Greek Cypriots, Asian and Black British, This page was last edited on 28 February 2023, at 18:31. Being Tottenham, I came unstuck several times against the herd back in the 1980s, I still recognise some of the faces in the pictures, they were game as you like back in the day, even bumped into several of them and renewed acquaintances again in a cup semi final at Old Trafford in 2001 !!! What we represent and what fascinates all these artists is simple: were the unity of the opposite, the outsider united.. And youre telling me i werent involved when it mattered. 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Arsenal has two separate Football hooligan firms, one named as The Gooners, this being a mutation of the clubs nickname, The Gunners and The Herd. Was with docker that day man utd away when he came up with name gooners. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you can opt-out if you wish. Nots Forest away in the trent they went , Your email address will not be published. Every week Dearden gathers intelligence from his counterparts at other clubs, "spotters" at train and motorway service stations, the transport police, traffic wardens, the public and paid informants on the inside of the Herd so he can grade the risk of potential violence and call in police resources. Although The information contained on this site is the opinion of G. Blair Lamb MD, FCFP and should not be used as personal medical advice. We pay informants; there is a network of them across hooligan groups in England and if they give us good information we pay them. If you are frustrated on your journey back to wellness - don't give up - there is hope. As 1980s boom money flowed into the pockets of newly minted City boys and entrepreneurs, many took great delight in buying up racks of clothes from boutiques that would have thrown them out two years earlier. I know what happened i was there . Last Wednesday, 19-year-old Callum Ellis was given a maximum five-year banning order by Leeds magistrates for being the leader of a group of Bradford City hooligans who call themselves the Young Bradford Ointment. We got idiots on youtube who like you were never there and are proper embarrassing-Hooligooner, eie herdsman etc-all the same person who logs in with other accounts to upvote himself and even fucking talks to himself, what a clown.All he does is repeat shit hes read on other posts and sites and people entertain the cunt, a bit like you, knows fuck all and done even less. When they played Manchester United at Highbury last August, 20 Arsenal hooligans followed one United fan and beat him senseless at a Tube station. Liverpool always had it with Arsenal more than any other London mob. A couple of the main firm Arsenal firm are in these pics .Yes well underated .Smashed the yids plenty of times mainly awsy from the grounf just like we done to modt firms up and down the country.I must say we had plenty of small firms mixed intoit and plenty of in fighting . When he says Millwall vs West Ham, hes not talking about the teams on the pitch, hes describing the hooligan clash. In the late 70s, the not then called, The Yids were fkg giants compared to us little tadpoles. Robbie Williams sent flowers. Well I am too young to remember the hooligan firms in their prime. The top mob was the Clockend,thats who everyone knows and remembers,not some divs in the north bank from the home counties,is that who you mean by saying 99% of the top boys are missing? Any soldiers known to be intent on causing trouble would be prevented from travelling, he said. I remember showing up one week in Tacchini, feeling proud of my label and seeing three top boys come round the corner in Burberry jackets, wearing deerstalker hats and carrying walking sticks, and realising Tacchini was over. Matt the Millers is a casual dining restaurant that specializes in unique appetizers and tavern favorites, but often with a unique twist. And we must remember that an Arsenal fan was stabbed to death near Arsenal tube after a game against West Ham at Highbury in the Eighties. Never hears anyone calling them the herd till this year just laughed theres gooners and just Arsenal fans, Ive seen Denton go on his arse a few times. cos you reckon your a Yid and you got chelsea mates,you obviously aint from the manor cos no real yid would have chelsea mates and you aint ever been involved so fuck off with the bunny you soppy little cunt.Your all over youtube giving it then deleting your comments out of embarrassment not because you might incriminate yourself cos you aint ever done fuck all.Cos no cunt wanks off over your mob from the 80s cos it didnt exist must grate you which is why you spend so much time online talking bollocks.We came to yours 50 handed 4 years ago and embarrassed you,theres videos on youtube of it as proof and I know you seen it cos I see your bollocks written on the comments,Northumberland park your lot bottled.Now fuck off. Daintiness, Ba***ls, DM, R*s*i, Ginger etc all well respected lads. Privately, the FA, BTP, the police on the ground and the government understand they have to remain wary. This is gang violence that attaches itself to sport. The Gooners were a violent football hooligan firm mainly active It was a working-class style, a genuine subculture. Who can honestly then witness the Yids T-shirts after? Charlie wouldnt be intimidated by the hatchet men of the day And you were only team that turned up at k.Cross before or after. Reservations are accepted at Matt the Millers Tavern via Open Table. It gives them that strength of character to go into situations where otherwise they might have been frightened. The Herd was mainly active between the late 1970s and early 1990s, it still exists. Arsenal v Leeds in early 80s. I must say most of the top boys were not dtupid enough to have thier photos taken at every opportunity like in these pictures do you are wsy offmark and mussing 99 percent of them. But I would say the Herd for gathering together all those rival British firms for that surprise attack at the battle of Copenhagen. The authorities, though, argue that the battle to control hooliganism and prevent a return to the dark days requires stringent measures. Wally says: "There used to be instances before where you could get arrested on the morning of a match and be out by kick-off with a 50 fine and a slap on the wrist. They use mobile phones and the internet to arrange showdowns with rival "firms" at agreed locations away from prying CCTV cameras and police surveillance. Dearden says: "That's our most high-risk game. Sure, the Arsenal boys had their own response to the West Ham mobs (Danny Miller and a few of his lot infamously took liberties in the Boleyn seats one year) A group of men were later charged with violent disorder after being identified through CCTV footage. To have been made. I can tell from your comments your a tool. Required fields are marked *. "They are 15-, 16-year-olds who want to get into it. 80's Arsenal had a very big hooligan following, for a time probably the top one in London and one of the few to take it to places up north. [citation needed] Dainton Connell (aka Dainton "The Bear" Cornnell) was considered a folk hero by many Arsenal fans, but died in a car crash in 2007, with 3,000 mourners attending his funeral including several ex players. There is a younger firm coming through," he says. A spokesman said: 'This sounds extremely serious and would not be condoned in any way by either the MoD or the civilian police.' As acid house spread through the UK in 1988 and 1989, football firms became more interested in raving than rucking. The main rivals of The Herd in the 1980s and in the present day are West Ham's I.C.F., Tottenham Hotspur's Yid Army, Chelsea's Headhunters and Millwall's F-Troop (later known as the Millwall Bushwackers). Lots of using your initiative. Boys Own was about music, fashion, slang, football and drugs. This is the profile of the 21st-century football hooligan, a breed of "fan" who, although decreasing in numbers and visibility, is recognised by the football authorities and police as never having gone away. However, over a very short period of time, WEiE grew up and turned it back round. The Lamb Clinic provides a comprehensive assessment and customized treatment plan for all new patients utilizing both interventional and non-interventional treatment methods. "I'd suggest that was cowardly because its easy to attack a defenceless pub. Fusing masculine rituals, expensive fashion, a love of music and belief in a cause meant football firms top boys inspired a curious devotion in firm members. Had to share with my ICF and Chelsea mates, they pissed themselves aswell. Tottenham had a huge firm in the 70s and 80s but there were certainly other huge firms aswell but The Gooners werent one of them. I have some who are in their sixties and might earn 100,000 a week in the City. WebGreen Street is a 2005 Independent Drama film about football hooliganism and the rivalry between Millwall and West Ham United. Read our, {{#verifyErrors}} {{message}} {{/verifyErrors}} {{^verifyErrors}} {{message}} {{/verifyErrors}}. A teenager told the Standard: My nan, auntie and her kids were in the back of the Wetherspoon when fans ran in flipping tables around. You have just met the ICF) fought each other for a few inches of ground in crumbling soccer stadiums. Today, cocaine is massively in abundance. Without realising it, it was the beginnig of an early 70s Arsenal ave it rennaisance. In 1993 police raided his home in Kingsbury, north London, and found "an A to Z of hooligans" in Britain and Europe. Although The Herd was mainly considered to be a hooligan gang, a few members were not physically violent. Everything else has been co-opted. 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