What they got was a plane with many challenges. Crash of a Vultee Vengeance, 57 miles east of Narembeen, 55 miles south of Southern Cross in Western Australia on 27 August 1944 57 MILES EAST OF NAREMBEEN, 55 MILES SOUTH OF SOUTHERN CROSS IN WESTERN AUSTRALIA ON 27 AUGUST 1944 RAAF Vultee Vengeance A27-295 of 25 Squadron RAAF left RAAF Pearce on a planned training sortie on 27 August 1944. This debris field is seen from another angle in the below a few yards beyond the site, we had an exhilarating view from the rim At the tower, we were joined by a Lady from Mesa, AZ who There was an abundance of Vultee Vengeance aircraft all over the country. [9]:160. that, that provided an excellent view of the country below us. 331393. area to retrieve a vehicle still parked there. The pilot was WO Jack Ingram and the navigator/observer was Flight Sergeant Clyde Lennard King. In our case, we were sure that if we just traveled along the rim mountain indicates a similar line, and so it would seem that although they had tried to When people talk about aircraft used in WWII, most remember the German Stuka dive-bomber used to great effect very early in the war, but both sides of the conflict made use of dive-bombers. An engine mounting ring? The best directions we had to the site A27-60/SJ-X 1944 Foliage Green, Sky Blue Vultee Vengeance Mk.IIa Royal Australian Air Force (1921-now) 25 Sqn. A 2011 article in the Verde Independent1, a local newspaper, had whetted our interest and we had already made one unsuccessful attempt last February only to be foiled by an 18-inch snow cover on . All armament was removed and a light cable winch fitted in the rear fuselage for sleeve towing. at Pearce Air Force base, situated North of Perth in Western Australia, had been allocated these planes from August 1943 to January 1945. By 1938, all fighters and trainers were full-metal, meaning that the P-66 . wife , sister , two of his daughters and his Grandson this terrible loss In combat, the type was considered rugged, reliable, stable, and generally well-behaved. became lost in bad weather and the aircraft ran low on fuel, the Pilot, P/O bomber dropped its wing and rolled onto its back diving into 4 houses in The Vultee A-31 Vengeance was an American dive bomber of World War II, built by Vultee Aircraft. issue of. The aeroplane had apparently become lost and run out of fuel. The information provided is made available in good faith and is derived from sources believed to be reliable and accurate. A modified version was designated A-35. The aircraft also carried up to 1,500lb (680kg) of bombs in an interior bomb bay and on external wing racks. The RAAF flew them in the New Guinea Campaign, and a few commentators highly respected them. We all then drove back to the parking When the CCRCs were dissolved in the autumn, the Vengeances were transferred to combat groups, with most fighter and several bomber groups having one on hand at some time during 1945. Left to right (standing): Jerry Showalter, Lila Wright, Miriam Sterling, Mike. There were many large lumps of molten aluminium lying After walking for two days Ingram reached a farm house and was lifted to safety.A massive search for navigator King was instigated. This Ingram landed safely but no sign of King has ever been found. The P-66 had a mediocre combat record in China and was out of service by 1943. old FR 231, that once led to East Point Tank. and a highest elevation of 7025 feet. Vengeances (A27-49 and A27-92). Using the original BT-13/15 drawings (which he had drawn in the early 1930's), he began to sketch the aircraft that would eventually become the Vultee P-66 Vanguard. By late June 1944, there were seven A-35Bs at RAF Cluntoe, seven at Greencastle, ten at RAF Sutton Bridge and six at RAF East Wretham. the aircraft departed Laverton on a course via Wagga P/P 21 dated 27/5/1944 including PT81 The Allies had not anticipated the brief but vital role dive-bombers played, and so had to take whatever they could get. You could do anything in them, rolls, loops, stall turns, and there was enough room in the cockpit to hold a ball. References Due to the Air Mail Act of 1934, AVCO established the Aviation Manufacturing Corporation (AMC) on November 30, 1934 through the acquisition of Cord's holdings, including Vultee's Airplane Development Corporation. The French needed dive-bombers of their own. ], A27-92. hit the tail of the aircraft and was either killed or rendered unconscious and The V-72 Vengeance dive-bomber was developed independently by Vultee Aircraft Co. for France. any information or photographs, "Australia @ In the jungles of Asia, the dive-bomber found a new edge. Just click on the below link to see the Demonstration. Assembling the "Vengeance" bomber, Nashville, TN, August 1942. I am not sure, but I think it may be a desert dahlia. Additionally, we had been told that the tower would be To be effective, all those aircraft required an environment of local air superiority and fighter escort. The first dive bombing missions against Japanese forces were flown on 19 March 1943. V-72 Vengeance: 1941 1,931 Single engine dive bomber V-84 XP-54: 1943 2 Vultee A-31 Vengenance dropping bomb 1943.jpg 2,101 1,578; 1.53 MB. War" They were condemned as unsafe for dive bombing in 1944. Cloud on the mountain was reported at 1,500ft. [1], In 1940, Vultee Aircraft started the design of a single engined dive-bomber, the Vultee Model 72 (V-72) to meet the requirements of the French Arme de l'Air. Brazil bought 33 V-72s, which they used for submarine-hunting patrols. Monument details supplied by Monument Australia - www.monumentaustralia.org.au, Monument Australia 2010 - 2023 ALL RIGHTS RESERVED - Designed by, Emu Fence Road, near Skeleton Rock, Marvel Loch, 6426. Hundreds of men and dozens of planes then E.S.T. turned south on old FR 231 road and then left it after a short The Vengeance saw considerable action attacking Japanese supply, communications and troop concentrations in Burma. Moving the wing back by "sweeping" the centre section was a simpler fix than re-designing the wing root. we had previously turned south on that road. All rights reserved. off, we reached a spacious parking area, located right on the rim start our search from there. [11][13], Last edited on 28 February 2023, at 12:27, Learn how and when to remove this template message, "Vultee Buys Stinson Airplane Factory for Big Expansion Here", "Consolidated Vultee Aircraft Corporation.". In fact I visited 4 crash sites in three and a half hours on On March 17, 1943, Consolidated and Vultee merged, creating Consolidated Vultee Aircraft Corporation, popularly known as Convair. 22 Vultee Vengeance Mk III RIAF FB922 Here are some photos showing all the Vengeance together Here are some small groups. Mount Disappointment (802 metres) - view from The Vultee A-31 Vengeance was an American dive bomber of World War II, built by Vultee Aircraft. members of the group left from Cottonwood and drove to Sedona where Burma tended to be a low priority for Allied air planners, and forces in that theater got what was left over. Wreckage The wreckage of this aircraft remains in situ. |. erected a memorial cairn at the site of the crash. The plaque commemorates the death of the pilot and gunner of a Vultee Vengeance dive-bomber which crashed there on 4 September 1943. . the crash site, we decided to turn northeast and hike to the tower. site and 3 others on 1 March 2000. trip to the area and thought it was very near the crash site, so we shows In 1940, Vultee Aircraft started the design of a single engined dive-bomber, the Vultee Model 72 (V-72) to meet the requirements of the French Arme de l'Air. Dive-bombers supported fast-moving attacks by tanks and motorized infantry. e-mail me large pieces of molten aluminium, Site 1 - Peter Dunn inspecting some of the wreckage, The point of impact was most possibly in front of the tree It From Southern Cross, pass the Palace Hotel on the Marvel Loch Road. ON 25 MAY 1944. Christopher and Smith, Frank. The V-72s period in service was a brief and ignoble one. It turns out that we were actually headed in the right direction when normal passenger vehicle, although a high-clearance vehicle is Eager to get them into combat, they did not make improvements to them as the Australians and British had. A bronze plaque memorializing the Vultees is located near the crash site at the end of Coconino Forestry and Vultee Arch Trails, where a natural rock arch named for them, the Vultee Arch, is located. On realising that he was nearly out of fuel, the pilot had warned the navigator (Flt/Sgt CL King) to bale out and conducted the necessary roll to allow him to do so. [5] Donald P. Smith, Vultee's close friend and vice president of Vultee Aircraft, wrote a letter to TIME magazine about Vultee's death: AVCO hired Dick Palmer away from Howard Hughes to take Jerry Vultee's place, and Vultee Aircraft Division began to develop military designs. The crash site was near Kalibal in a deep gully between two mountains and identified by the serial number to be this aircraft. The large radial engine, together with the positioning of the cockpit and nose, made for poor visibility. Kittyhawk aircraft could carry the same bomb load and in addition carry out ground-strafing". He then climbed for height and baled out himself. Privacy statement, cookies, disclaimer and copyright, On a journey of discovery to historical sites? an eyewitness nearby stated the plane was performing aerobatics over Jerry Vultee was named vice president and chief engineer. by Charles Page, Please Download the TracesOfWar app directly on, Australia (1901-present, Federal Monarchy), Belgium (1830-present, Constitutional Monarchy), Canada (1931-present, Constitutional Monarchy), Soviet Union (1922-1991, People's Republic), Crash Site & Remains B-24D-110-CO Liberator 42-40886 - Engati, Privacy statement, cookies, disclaimer and copyright, Crash Site Vultee Vengeance Mark IA A27-83. On May 23, 1943 took off piloted by Sgt J. E. Sheehan on a training flight and suffered an electrical fire. turned off about 1.4 miles too soon. Vultee Vengeance Mk I (Model 72) Engine: Wright GR-2600-A5B-5 Cyclone Power: 1,700hp Crew: 2 Wing span: 48ft Length: 40ft Height: 12ft 10in Loaded Weight: 12,480lb Max Speed: 279mph Cruising Speed: 250mph Service Ceiling: 24,300ft Range: 1,200 miles Armament: Four 0.30in guns in wings and two 0.30in flexibly mounted guns in rear cockpit Date February 1943 World War II RM 2JXTRMJ - Navy Vultee Vengeance In Flight Somewhere Over Europe. There were a number of fatal accidents with the Vengeance due to improper dive procedures, as well as a center of gravity problem when the aircraft was flown with the rear cockpit canopy open, but without a rear gunner. In service, the RAF managed to solve those problems, but Free French aircraft that did not have these problems remedied were grounded, being declared uneconomical and unreliable to operate. The Free French received several dozen V-72s in 1943. next to Les Lewis, Les Lewis inspecting part of the wing root, An exhausted Peter Dunn inspecting the large radial engine in . I visited this crash This resulted in the aircraft cruising in a nose-up attitude, giving a poor forward view for the pilot, particularly during landing. as measured by GPS, and on reaching it we once again headed south No sign of King was ever found. the time we had finished and we surely would not have found the site While we were rambling rise buildings in the central business district of Melbourne. The aircraft was described as being stable in flight and in a dive, with heavy elevator and rudder control, but with light aileron control. 6 MILES NORTH OF WHITTLESEA, VIC on the main road (FR 231), we could see a gate across that road about looking across Sedona to Airport Mesa, shows faint contrails from an From Corrigan the plane turned north but was caught in dense cloud formation. It provided valuable aerial support for fast-moving ground troops. [8][2], The P-66 Vanguard was a 1941 fighter program that was intended for Sweden that was inherited by the USAAC, Great Britain and finally, China. 3kms further along the road is Gatherer School site dated 1929-1944. Simply put, dive-bombers were not suitable for the war in Europe and the Mediterranean. Originally ordered for French use as the V-72, some 300 examples arrived before the fall of France. Hoped for orders from the United States Army Air Corps failed to materialize beyond test samples though, as the USAAC had made the decision to use only twin engine attack aircraft. This vengeance force landed on the beach off Dum In Mirrie Island off Port Patterson near Darwin. A-35Bs did not show a high state of serviceability by this time and were generally considered troublesome to maintain. "U.S. Army Air Forces in World War II Combat Chronology 19411945" compiled by Kit C. Carter & Robert Mueller of the Center for Air Force History published in 1991. pp. A modified version was designated A-35. Britain was the leading user of the Vengeance, but it was not the only one. Shores. We then proceeded on up the from Les Lewis:-, A27-49. ADF Serials - Vengeance Vultee Vengeance Image Gallery See also RAN Vultee Vengeance Page RAAF Serials A27-1 to A27-99 RAAF Serials A27-200 to A27-299 RAAF Serials A27-300 to A27-321 RAAF Serials A27-400 to A27-422 RAAF Serials A27-500 to A27-566 RAAF Serials A27-600 to A27-640 No RAAF Serial Allocated ), Nature of accident: "Non operational ferry Unit: 1APU Bowen Detachment. Andrew Knighton is one of the authors writing for WAR HISTORY ONLINE. site and 3 others on 1 March 2000 with Les Lewis, and his Series Two) for the Vultee Vengeance information.They along with the other squadrons that flew Vengeance aircraft were then reassigned to working up on the Consolidated Liberator bombers as their next allocation of aircraft. German Stukas played a part in that battle. After [12] The Vultee management resigned. The later that it is not possible to drive all the way to the tower; the If Monument Australia is useful to you, please make a donation to keep this historical and educational resource available. Dive-bombers supported fast-moving attacks by tanks and motorized infantry. Meanwhile, three hikers had gone on ahead to retrieve vehicles The road to Vultee Arch (FR 152, Dry Creek Road) is very primitive and suitable for high-clearance vehicles only. That was true; however, we we had expected and we were about to turn back, thinking that we had At 1123 hrs. Continue straight for 5.8kms to a junction of bitumen and gravel road. photograph. It is believed that parts of it were later used to restore another Vultee Vengeance at the Air Force Museum. we met with others at the Burger King Restaurant. Flickr photos, groups, and tags related to the "vulteevengeance" Flickr tag. Although its career was short-lived, the Vengeance had some advantages as a combat aircraft. ], A27-49. No reason is known for the delay that ensued, however it is known Aircraft such as the Vickers Wellington and Hawker Hurricane spent their last days in Burma. [24], One complete Vengeance IA that did not see squadron service, serial number A27-99 (EZ999), is displayed at the Camden Museum of Aviation at Narellan, New South Wales, Australia. Indecision about which aircraft type should replace it in production at the Vultee plant led to several "make-work" contracts for Vengeance aircraft to prevent dispersion of the skilled workforce. Although equipped with guns, they could not hold their own against fighters or fighter-bombers. This is a link to a video produced by the University of Arizona's Sarver Heart Center. This rededication took place at the crash site at Directly alongside the signpost on the right is a track into Cockatoo Tank. This resulted from an error in calculating its centre of gravity. and notes. close to FR 231 on our left. [22], According to other sources the A-31 saw extensive front-line combat with the 10th Air Force located in China throughout the spring of 1944. 21' E. On the 27 August 1988, the Shire of Yilgarn Between September and December 1944, 11 Vultees took part in air-spraying trials against malarial mosquitoes, using under wing spray dispensers.[14]. They asked Vultee Aircraft, an American company, to produce a single-engine model for them. There being no sign of King, he headed west and found the farmhouse, after fours days, during which he had only a goanna to eat. Husband arrived a few minutes later from work to find he had lost his A27-49 and A27-92. The result was the Vultee Model 72 or V-72, which became known as the Vengeance. Some of these aircraft continued to be flown with British national markings and serial numbers. Wartime Air Mystery of Western Australia" Whilst flying in formation at low altitude over mountains in mist and cloud, Hunter street and the home of the pilots girlfriend after a slow circuit The lessons learned in Spain were put into practice by the Luftwaffe during Germany's blitzkrieg attacks on Poland and then France. The pilot decided that he and the navigator should bale out The Vultee Vengeance is a cumbersome aircraft and has to roll to allow the crew to bale out. Location: Six miles north of Whittlesea. "As with the Curtiss XP-55 "Ascender", the. Categories: Aircraft of the United States Army Air Forces. L'arme de l'air franaise rclama en 1940 un bombardier en piqu. As such, they were restricted to training operations, being finally withdrawn in September 1944. All kms are from point, approx. A chance remark from a commercial airline pilot led to the finding of the parachute 80km east of Narembeen. trekked off down the 802 metre Mount Disappointment towards the crash site of two Vultee Vultee Vengeance Mystery On Sunday 27 August 1944, a RAAF Vultee Vengeance dive bomber went missing on a training flight from Pearce near Perth. Vultee Vengeance Vultee Vengeance Mk.II Royal Air Force (1918-now) 45 Sqn. far enough. [13], After Burma service, a detachment from 110 Squadron RAF was sent to Takoradi in West Africa via the Middle East, a number of aircraft breaking down en route. When the war in the Pacific broke out, the Royal Australian Air Force needed to expand quickly. The cooling system was unreliable, something the British had to solve to keep their planes in the air, and which cropped up again for the Free French. Ce fut une firme amricaine, Vultee, qui rpondit cette demande en proposant le V-72, baptis . [17] Australian Vengeances flew their last operational sorties on 8 March 1944, as they were considered less efficient than fighter bombers, having a short range and requiring a long runway, and were withdrawn to allow more effective fighter bombers to move into the forward area. Although after American Airlines showed great interest in their six-passenger V-1 design. The V-72s were already on their way, so the British sent them to Burma, where they proved useful in the war against invading Japanese forces. ). body was never found. It grew farther away as we continued Les Lewis and myself In 1944, a Royal Australian Air Force (R.A.A.F.) Produced & Printed by the Shire of Yilgarn Good Country for Hardy People Crash of the Vultee Vengeance A27-295 On Sunday the 27th August 1944 one of the most dramatic events to involve members of the 15th battalion took place in the far eastern part of the unit's area. Artillery could not always keep up with the advancing troops. Park on a heading of 32 deg. above ground level. The Vultee Vengeance has not been particularly well covered by kit manufacturers probably because it was not really one of the better-known front-line aircraft. See more ideas about radio control planes, aircraft, fighter jets. over the streets the plane turned again but this time the heavy dive The Vultee Vengeance was regarded by most RAAF men as unsafe. "[10], By the time that Britain had received large numbers of Vengeances, its opinion on the usefulness of specialised dive bombers had changed. the plaque mounted in the center of the cross. uk sites of military and aviation history i come across mainly wreck sites but i will try to fit in more! Hill Vic. In the past we have borne all the costs associated with maintaining the website but we are now having difficulties in paying the monthly expenses. This information was based on a report and forecast at 0600 hrs. ", This page was last edited on 22 February 2023, at 05:30. Second World War (1939-1945) Kaiapit; Papua New Guinea Morobe Kaiapit; Vultee Vengeance Mark IA A27-83 force landed on 27 February 1944. However, A modified version was designated A-35. miles (FR 535) was well maintained, the second 3.3 miles (FR 536) remains of a major part of the airframe assembly can be seen to the Australian received 342 Vengeance aircraft - 99 Mark 1s, 122 mark IIs, and 121 Mark IVs. friends Rob Pocock, and Ken "Roach" Brookes. we had hiked far enough that we thought we should have encountered The Vengeance was not used in combat by the United States; it did see combat, however, with the British Royal Air Force, the Royal Australian Air Force, and the Indian Air Force in Southeast Asia and the Southwest Pacific. The plaque commemorates the crash of a Vultee Vengeance aeroplane and its crew. On landing, there was no sign of navigator King so he headed west until he found the farmhouse. It lasted for weeks and involved 30 aircraft, 500 searchers and support teams, including police, mounted horsemen, civilians and aborigines. [28], Components of Vengeance IIA A24-247 are held at the Historical Aircraft Restoration Society, Australia, to form the basis of a restoration project. subsequent report had come in prior to departure, the pilots had not been advised. east of Narembeen, and 55 miles south of Southern Cross in the Burakin area of Western Australia. Themes: Outside influencesSub Themes: World War II. Vultee Aircraft had a product but no purchaser. Many of these surplus aircraft, including most Vengeance Mk IVs, were delivered to the UK and modified as target tugs, being used in that role both by the RAF and the Royal Navy's Fleet Air Arm (FAA). left RAAF Pearce on a planned training sortie on 27 August 1944. [30], Aircraft of comparable role, configuration, and era, James-Martin, Howard (Sgt Pilot) Australian War Memorial MSS1514. noted, our original intent had been to drive all the way to the [2], In 1938, before Vultee become independent again, Jerry Vultee and his wife Sylvia Parker, daughter of Twentieth Century Fox film director Max Parker,[2] died in late January when the plane he was piloting crashed in a snowstorm near Sedona, Arizona.[4]. we had planned, we decided to leave the cars and start our hike from Visitors to the Scale Model World 2021 exhibition will be able to see the model at our stand, in Hall 2, row 2D . ], A27-92. It had a short-lived career, however, and did not become an enduring feature of war. There was no trace of King or his parachute, it was believed that he had been hit by the large tailplane of the Vengeance as he bailed out. 7 and No. to the top of a fairly steep hill, before it veered to the east and examination to be the author taking a nap. But just hiking from the FR 231/old FR 231 junction to the "Vengeance of the Outback - A mountain in low cloud on 25 May 1944. The Vultee A-31 Vengeance was an American dive bomber of World War II, built by Vultee Aircraft. THE FINAL VERSION WILL BECOME AVAILABLE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. [2], France placed an order for 300 V-72s, with deliveries intended to start in October 1940. Near the engine in the creek bed. of the Dry Creek watershed. came only a short time after receiving news his son had been killed on would have cleared the spur and the ridge that lay beyond. Pelletier. The plane had apparently become lost and run out of fuel. nowhere in any of these reports had I found location coordinates or a The aircraft were scheduled to depart Laverton airbase at 0830 on a The A-31 first saw combat in China on March 14th, 1944 when 41 A-31's along with British aircraft hit targets in Arakan and Chin Hills China. A few days later, a commercial pilot mentioned, by chance, that he has seen what he thought was a tent in the bush east of Narembeen to the Commanding Officer of the communications unit at Pearce. ", -----------------------------------------. The Luftwaffe defined the place of dive-bombers in WWII. Reply. A few days later a chance conversation between a commercial pilot and Squadron Leader Haber, the Commanding Officer of No. [2] Vultee acquired the assets of the defunct AMC, including Lycoming Engines and Stinson Aircraft Company. By the time the RAF received its first shipment of V-72s, the British were rethinking their interest in the dive-bomber. Small numbers of Vengeances remained in service with support and trials units until 1946. Petals almost non-existant, but the flower consistes mainly of calyx segments that are brightly coloured. Historic site with few or no built features. old road, now closed to vehicular traffic, that I later learned was Ingram remained where he had landed till the following morning when he headed west through dense scrub. Unit: 82 Sqdn Pilot details: PO. 163. Originally known as the Vultee V-72, the Vengeance was designed to make use of knowledge gained from dive bombing attacks carried out during the Spanish Civil War. The first RAF squadrons (No. 41360 Sergeant West P. [1][2] It had limited success before merging with the Consolidated Aircraft Corporation in 1943, to form the Consolidated Vultee Aircraft Corporation or Convair. third section (FR 231) was well maintained but with a few rough This information is provided voluntarily as a public service. the place is so deceptively simple to find once you know where it is. The Australians, like the British, discovered there were better options, and they withdrew the V-72s in favor of fighter-bombers in 1944. Ingram walked for four days without food or water before he reached safety. Vultee was the first company to build aircraft on a powered assembly line, and the first to use women workers in production-line positions. air show currently in progress there. According to witnesses, they appeared to fly direct overhead of the The Kakariki was a steamer that was sunk in a collision with the steamer Carradale in 1937. It was fitted with a more powerful Wright Twin Cyclone R-2600-19 engine and improved armament. e-mail me Vultee Vengeance; 12 Squadron RAAF Dutch New Guinea Dec 1943. All-metal except for tail control surfaces. Footscray Vic. 1100 hours 16 August 2008. Lindsay Merkel says: January 7, 2023 at 7:58 pm. canyon toward Flagstaff, turning left onto Forest Road 535 between Access: Drive 27 miles south from Flagstaff to Sedona on US 89A. AMC was liquidated on January 1, 1936 and Vultee Aircraft Division was formed as an autonomous subsidiary of AVCO. From there we and meet us at the junction. STIWOT, 1999-2023. The fall of France in June 1940 stopped these plans, but at the same time the British Purchasing Commission, impressed by the performance of the German Junkers Ju 87, was shopping for a dive bomber for the Royal Air Force, and as it was the only aircraft available, placed an order for 200 V-72s (named Vengeance by Vultee) on 3 July 1940, with orders for a further 100 being placed in December. Vultee A-35A Vengeance IIa: This particular aircraft is a composite machine, comprising components from a number of RAAF Vengeance aircraft. See Australia @ War to see how many of these aircraft were lost during the war. 57 MILES EAST OF NAREMBEEN, 8). About 0.4 miles after turning This squadron seems to have been the longest user of the Vultee Vengeance in the R.A.A.F. The remaining planes were used for communication or as targets. Vultee A-31 Vengeance in flight near Nashville in 1942.jpg 2,128 1,585; 1.6 MB. They were rebuilding them there.Along with . http://verdenews.com/main.asp?SectionID=74&SubsectionID=114&ArticleID=43609, http://www.dmairfield.com/people/vultee_je/, 13-mile Rock to Clear Creek on Crook Trail, Lime Kiln Trail from Red Rock to Dead Horse, Crook Trail from FR 9604 to Copper Canyon, Powerline Trail via FR 338 and Bug Hollow, Sandys Canyon, Fisher Point and Walnut Canyon, Inner Basin Trail to Waterline Trail and South, Inner Basin and Waterline Trails to Bearjaw, Arizona Trail From FR 751 to 3.6 Miles South, Rattlesnake Canyon and Nearby Indian Ruins, Thunder Mt. and their Your help would be greatly appreciated. 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